Gunslinger Cheney:2 of 3

Chat Recorded by Lino Triestino, February 16, 2006 9.10 PST.
Boston Tea Party. http://www.sfwest.com

A Discussion on the Events Surrounding Cheney’s Use of a Shotgun to Fire a Group of 1/8 Diameter Lead Projectiles into Wittington, and Wound Him in the Heart and Face.

Chatteristi:
Patriots: Doss, Enzer, Gangi, Guera, Gurjar, Hog_rider, Kewp, Luvy, MystiMatrix, Rigelianian, Sackman, SFChris, Spektre, Vanax, Watsup,

Rightwingers: AwsomeGod, Cicilia, Clummer, Crosseyedmary, Delmer, Gunther, Hornball, Intrepid, Ogarlic, Tejanobob, Trapscott, VooDoo

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Vanax: "Vice President Dick Cheney took full blame Wednesday for shooting a hunting companion, calling it "one of the worst days of my life," but did not apologize. He did not say that he was sorry. Where is it reported that he says he is sorry for shooting him? For all we know, he thinks it was the worst day of his life because he failed to kill him dead.

Doss: Vanax, He's probably just sorry he got caught.

Luvy: Vanax, Does it ever occur to you that he might have said to Mr. Whittington he is sorry? Since when is the vice president required to tell the whole truth to the nation anyway? Besides, I am used to getting only partial truths and am weaned off of expecting the whole truth. It’s a new day; No one needs to know the whole truth anymore.

Trapscott: Doss, left-wingers wouldn't know a lie if it was on a blue dress.

Doss: Trapscott, well, they certainly know that a gunshot wound is more serious than a blowjob. And how much did Star spend on the blowjob incident? 42 million? That’s nearly half billion! Cheney should take Bush with him on his next “hunting” trip. This time, he should use buckshot.

Tejanobob: Doss, Cheney's hunting accident sure took the focus off of Bush. I'll bet George Dubya is breathing a sigh of relief.

Gangi: Tejanobob, I bet he is too. I think we have waited too long to do anything about the direction this country is going. The democrats are just as much to blame, for just rolling over and trying not to make anybody mad.

Vanax: Fuckin' Cheney. His head needs to be cut off, with eyes permanently jacked open, and attached to the top of a machine, watching a film of one troop after another and one innocent Iraqi civilian after another being murdered ad infinitum. The machine is rigged to make him thirsty. When he asks for water, he is given salted blood to drink. This makes him permanently thirsty so that he experiences the horror of being grateful to drink blood liquid to satiate his thirst but at the same time revolted at having to drink the blood of others. As he swallows the blood, it flows through his steel throat tube and collects into a big tank in front of him, and the cycle begins again. He can’t turn his head away so he is forced to look at the blood he is drinking recollect in the tank. That would be justice to him.

Intrepid: Vanax: How do you know Cheney wouldn’t like that?

Gunther: Vanax, well well well.

Vanax: Intrepid, ha! Yeah, Cheney might actually like to have his decapitated head hooked up to a gruesome life support machine: It might extend his bloodthirsty life, having to be essentially dead but alive. The machine might even give him a sort of soul that the present soulless Cheney lacks.

Guera: Oh Gawd Vanax. I'm looking forward to less talk about Cheney and the hunting accident and a turn to matters of more concern.

Vanax: Guera, the point of discussing the shooting is Cheney’s unwillingness to communicate to Americans. His secretive handling is a microcosm of the whole WH campaign to keep America in the dark about nearly everything, his own international terrorism, and his misuse of 911 for mindless revenge and to keep Americans so misinformed that they are virtually ignorant about it. Secrecy in government makes America less democratic. Remember that an educated public is essential for a true republican form of democracy and the present WH is purposefully making America less of a democracy.

Doss: Vanax, Did you know Fox News edited out the part where Cheney admitted drinking alcohol prior to shooting a man in the face?

Vanax: Doss, I heard that fuckin‘ Fox's Britt Hume chose not to air the video portion where Cheney admits to drinking a beer, and instead he paraphrases it for the viewer, sparing Cheney from being seen on TV saying it. Cheney did not complain, and was instead grateful that this story was framed by Hume in a downplayed manner. He likes biased press when it serves him, but hates it otherwise.

The deployment of this method of damage control is similar to the method Delay’s people used to avoid getting a typical ugly police mug shot, you know, with a frown and unkempt appearance.

By the way, Delay's smiling mug shot makes him look like he was proud of turning himself in to the law for the bookeding.

Clummer: Ahhh...I watched the whole interview and they didn't edit out anything...Doss is lying again...He was asked the question...and he answered it...can't be any plainer than that.

Luvy: Vanax, Funny I heard Cheney say he had a beer at dinner. LOL You dems are so funny.

Doss: Luvy and Clummer: Read it and weep. Quote:
"Cheney's exclusive interview with Fox pays off; FNC withholds video of Cheney's drinking acknowledgment, ignores key questions.”

“In airing Brit Hume's interview with Vice President Cheney, Fox News omitted Cheney's comments about drinking a beer the day he shot his hunting companion, thus sparing Cheney the embarrassment of the public seeing him acknowledge that he was drinking before he shot a man in the face -- and depriving the public of the opportunity to assess his credibility as he talked about the matter. Fox News even excluded the comments from what it said was the “full interview” posted on its website."

Tejanobob: Doss, but we've had our fun with the Cheney hunting accident. Now, let's get back to this idea that the president has absolute power to do whatever he thinks necessary.

Vanax: SFChris, I think Cheney said it was THE worst day but did not say why, so it's up to us to fill in what was unstated. Well, his stock-in-trade is death and killing for profit, so he may have meant it was the worst day because he failed to kill Wittington dead and may have been fiscally unprofitable.

Intrepid: Hog_Rider, Cheney is a corpulent bastard. His obese body wouldn’t be affected by just one beer.


Hog_rider: Intrepid, and with meds he takes, he probably shouldn't be hunting anyway, and, what are the effects of beer on the meds?

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Intrepid: Vanax, well there was a 100% liberal bias when Clinton was pres and now there is a 100% conservative bias. Do you agree? *L*


Vanax: Intrepid, no, Liberals are not biased; only Rightwingers are. *S*


Intrepid: Vanax: *guffaw*

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Clummer: Fuckin’s shit-for-brains liberils, Cheney is not obligated to tell the Press ANYTHING. This was not official duty. The press is so pissed at him, they are almost mad-dogs.

Vanax: Clummer, I will give you this: The press excitedly peppered McClellan, the White House press secretary, as if Cheney had shot Wittington with a nuke WMD. The only question that the press did not ask is where Cheney had hidden the WMDs.

SFChris: Vanax, if merely shooting one of his campaign donors was reason for Cheney to consider that event “one of the worst days in MY life,” I'm actually curious which days were actually worse. What would be worse than that?

Hog_rider: First there was “no” drinking, and then there was “one” beer. All right. Then there was "no" beer in the field, and then there was “beer” in the field, but only for those not hunting. And they think there were only “four” (beers) in the cooler.

Intrepid: Hog, I don't know what meds he takes. Can you list them?

Hog_Rider, Intrepid, nope. Are you implying, having heard all the medical problems he's had, that he's not taking medications?

Intrepid: Hog, Nooooo...I'm saying some meds are cross-potentiating with alcohol and some aren’t. Simply saying someone is on meds does not mean they are proscribed for using alcohol.

Vanax: Intrepid, While they may not “be proscribed from using alcohol,” Cheney did not say that he was NOT taking any meds that “potentiate” with at least one beer. This means he might be. Besides, if I were his doc., I would be living in fear of being “rendered extraordinarily” should I have the cajones to deny Cheney anything that might make him happy, so whether or not he gets uber-high while shooting birds and people in the field would be the least of my worries. Are his lips twisted and asymmetrical because of his evilness or from extra happiness? *S*

Doss: Clummer doesn't mind govt operating in secret. Bush is VP. When the VP shoots a man, we have a right to know about it. You know, it’s, like, the people’s government, not Cheney’s

Vanax: Doss, Maybe Righwinger Brett Hume deliberately bailed out Cheney by portraying him as a one beer drinker when Hume may have known that Cheney was liquored up, better, drugged up with the combination of alcohol AND prescription meds. Does pot grow wild in that state, on that ranch? Who knows if they did not sneak behind the bush for a toke between killings...errr, I mean hunts. *S*

Rigelian: Doss, Seriously, the vice president doesn’t much inspire confidence in his veracity.

Doss: Rigelian, true, and Cheney acknowledged as much to Britt Hume. Quote:
"Finally, Hume suggested that since this was obviously a national story, Cheney should have informed the national press and gotten the word out sooner. Cheney's reply: "It isn't easy to do that. Are they going to take my word for what happened?"

Vanax: Doss, Yeah, liar Cheney is not surprised that the press may not believe him. The only way that Cheney can keep himself from lying is to keep his mouth shut.

Vanax: Gurjar, The hokey sheriff did not even give a breathalyzer. So much for an investigation as to whether or not he was drunk, which would then add to his illegal hunting.

Gurjar: Vanax, The hokey sheriff also realizes he can go to Gitmo if he orders a test like that, as an enemy combatant. You are either for me or against me, and all that.

Rigelian: Vanax how could the sheriff get a breathalyzer if the vice president refused to see him prior to the next day? The more interesting question is why wouldn't Cheney want to meet with the sheriff before that to make it clear he WASN'T drunk out of his mind?

Vanax: Rigelian, that would be a good question. If Cheney had nothing to hide, then he certainly could have cleared the air immediately by disproving that he was sober at the time by taking the voluntary test…I mean, assuming he wanted to actually show what was the true condition of his inebriation. *S*

Luvy: Sorry Doss, I saw the interview the first night. He said he had a beer Big freaking deal.

Clummer: Luvy and Vanax, I saw the entire press briefing. The looks of angst on almost ALL the hundred or so members of the Washington Elite Press Corp caused me to laugh a bunch. How DARE Cheney not call them BEFORE he ran over to his friend to render aid? It disgusts them. What a bunch of absolute losers Vanax and the Press Elites are.

Vanax:, Clummer, no, the Rightwing pressroom reporters were winners because they finally asked piercing questions. The dark boss dogs of fascist news felt it was safe to themselves to allow reporters to become attack dogs. But this was a minor incident. Is it Halloween? They allowed reporters to turn their masks around, from lapdog to attackdog masks. It helped to diffuse criticism that they ask Rightwing and NeoCon WH softball questions.

But the weasely media were big time losers when it would have counted when they did not grill Rice, Cheney, Powell, and Rumsfeld when they lied serially to get the war going.

And, look, the UN wanted just two more weeks. Two more weeks! But, no, Bush then stampeded congress to OK his invasion authority by discrediting Valerie Plame’s husband and his truthful report that Saddam did not seek Yellow Cake from Niger. This was because Bush was afraid that the UN would not find any WMDs, rendering his assertion that Iraq had them into a lie, which would have led the WH to lose the main, key weapon to stampede congress into agreeing with his warmongering. The press focused on blonde Brittany Spears and blonde missing Baby X. Cheney’s gunslinging is an example of Rightwing media having reverse priorities and misplaced loyalties, and being asleep in bed with the WH.

Spektre: Clummer, and it personally took Cheney over 14 hours to “render aid”? No. Nice try

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Gunther: Am I the only one chatting with Luvy?


Gunther: Quit talking about Cheney. Talk about me. It was just a shooting accident plain and simple, you toothless, titless twits. Milk it for all its worth if it makes u feel any better LOL.


Gunther: Why don't you people get lives apart from being in here?

Cecilia: Gunther, why are you here then?


Gunther: ~ Leaves the Tea Party ~


Cecilia: Oh darn! He left. (big loss) *S*

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Doss: Spektre, when someone with 2 DUIs under his belt tells a cop he's had “one beer,” the cop thinks - "12 pack at least."

SFChris: Clummer, let's be clear on this. The VP shot a man (all cops called off), hid it from the press for 24 hrs, selected his press venue etc. And you have little prob with that? Imagine it happened to GORE, you'd be pissing your pants with glee.

Clummer: Spektre, the press expected Cheney to render aid and then his next thought should have been to call these bastards....What a laugh. What losers.

AwsomeGod: Fuck the liberals and fuck the press. That's what I'd say if I was Cheney.

Intrepid: I like the way the Nazi SS held the deputies car back for inspection.

Doss: Clummer, Bush is VP. When the VP shoots a man, we have a right to know about it.

Clummer: Spektre...the press expected Cheney to render aid and then his next thought should have been to call these bastards.... What a laugh.

Spektre: Render aid one hour from the time of the shooting, to the guy getting picked up by ambulance and taken to hospital. Now, what about the other 23 hours? *S*

Clummer: SFChris, the man shot another man. It was Cheney's mistake. We all know about it now. What the fuck difference does it make how long it took to notify the elite press? Fuck them.

Vanax: Clummer, no, we all don’t know that; Only you blindly assert that. Today Wittington blamed himself for being shot by Cheney. Next he will reveal that he really shot himself, that he attempted suicide. It’s confusing: They each point the finger of innocence at the other. You would think they were saints with a martyr complex, until you see the deadly things they stand for.

How low will Wittington go to exculpate Cheney and culpate himself, just for a few lobbying dollars. Seems to me an old man like W., near the end of his life anyway, would start living a truthful life and make piece with, and tell the truth to, his creator and the people. *S*

Doss: Luvy: You didn't see Cheney say that he drank one beer. Fox edited it out. You just THOUGHT you saw Cheney say it. Fox knows how to fool you into swearing you saw and heard things you didn't.

Guera: Hog-I do think it's much ado about little, this Cheney thing. Thank God, Whittington survived. That's not to say that shooting another human being is not serious. I do, however, believe that there are much more grave sins for which to hold this administration accountable.

Vanax: Guera, of course, you don't say which of Cheney’s sins is more important to discuss than his gunslinging.

AwsomeGod: If I have an accident, it's not my responsibility to notify the press about it.

Vanax: Awesome, of course it is, and a must when you are the second in command to the executive of the US.

Luvy: Doss, Sorry I heard Cheney say on TV that he had a beer at lunch.

Doss:, Luvy, no, you didn't hear him say that. Fox edited it out. But they fooled you into thinking you saw and heard Cheney say it.

Doss: Luvy, Look again. It was HUME who said Cheney had one beer. Fox spared Cheney the embarrassment of admitting it himself. You fell for it.

Luvy: No Doss, Cheney said I had a beer at lunch. He didn't offer the info. Brett asked if there was alcohol involved. Cheney said I had a beer at lunch.

Doss: No Luvy, they fooled you into thinking you saw and heard Cheney say it.

Clummer: Sfchris, the man shot another man. It was Cheney's mistake. We all know about it now. What the fuck difference does it make how long it took to notify the elite press?

Doss: Clummer, The difference in getting off scott free and doing hard time for manslaughter, perhaps.

Hornball: Cheney has to define lunch. Maybe lunch was a handful of Quaaludes.

Clummer: Spektre...Cheney has a med team...ON THE SPOT. We're talking about a 50K acre ranch. Where was the EMT ambulance?...10 miles away?...50 miles away?....I don't know..do you?...This ain't the big city.

Spektre: Ok Clummer...so then Cheney certainly did not need to render assistance. The med team is already there, and a 50K ranch can't have an EMT helicopter land in it...especially for the Vice President's group? No. keep tryin. What WAS Cheney doing all this time, obviously the guy was being cared for very quickly...you just shot your own argument down.

Vanax: That's right; Drunkards usually underreport their intake. A beer to you and me would probably mean a 12oz can, but to fat Cheney, it could mean a half keg, or at least a pitcher.

And yeah, if you are against Bush or Cheney, you might wind up blacklisted, less funds for the sheriff's dept, or, in an extreme case, in Gitmo.

Intrepid: Vanax, I like the way the SS held the deputies car back for inspection.

Gurjar: Intrepid, of course...they could be a threat.....the Al Queda, knowing that Cheney was going to shoot a lawyer...would come in as the Sheriff's deputies and blow up Cheney with a car bomb.

Hog_rider: Here's my point: Republicans evidently consider a blowjob more serious than a gunshot wound. They giggled like schoolgirls over the press coverage of the blowjob and, now, want to claim indignation over the hunting accident. Screw 'em! They can't always have it two ways.

Rigelian: Luvy, from the man that translated the tapes. Maybe you should watch Fox news you might be more informed. Oh boy! *S*

Clummer: Doss, If I didn't know you were just bloviating and were serious, I'd really worry about your sanity.... Manslaughter....what bull. Case is closed. the man is alive. Cheney is embarrassed as he should be. You HAVE been notified of the shooting, so all is right with your fucking little world....OK?

Guera: Hog-that is true. I find the blowjob trivial. I don't find a shotgun blast to another person trivial, but I do think it's put the focus where it does not belong.

Intrepid: Guerra, Do you think Wittington would have rather had a blowjob from Cheney?

MystiMatrix: Intrepid, He might actually enjoy the blowjob.

Clummer: Dosset..you are a lying bastard. I saw it AS it happened..and heard it on the radio..probably 10 times this morning...including Imus, etc, etc. Go back to you hole and come up with something new.

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