Crosseyedmary

Sunday, 3-19-2006 (831 words)
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Chattatonics
Classical hero: Natchez
Archaic Gorgon: Crosseyedmary

Note: In Greek mythology, the three gorgon sisters were monsters having snakes in their hair, hands of bronze, boars tusks for teeth, terrible grins, beards, scaled bodies, and gold wings. While the mythical gorgon’s glance turned the beholder to stone, a chat gorgon uses vile, redneck language in an attempt to destroy a chatter.

Before the Crosseyedmary gorgon can destroy chat hero Natchez, he instigates the gorgon to implode by having her reveal her true redneck self by lashing out at several fellow chatteristas. She does not hesitate to entertain us all with a display of the lowest form of pedestrian language used by any chatter that I have seen so far. This includes chatters from WBS Politics Chat, BigBob’s Chatroom, and here, the latest rooster’s perch for our community, the Boston Tea Party at sfwest.com. Unbelievably, her vileness has even managed to top the troika of malice: Zulz, BHL, and Prap, making them look quaint.

On the other hand, and by contrast, notice that her grammar and syntax are good. And her chat also benefits from being colorful and energetic. These are positives. In the end, however, her vile form of speaking, in toto, does not justify the use of such a high percentage of foul words, as well as those that are tainted, in everyday communication and especially in such a short chat. After gorgon Crosseyedmary suicidally imploded, her ghost went to chat hell where it continues to terrify the shades of dead chatters like Whipple and Copper.

I was not brought up to speak foul-mouthedly, but with the belief that the use of clean language benefits society and me. And I am not around people who speak despicably, but then I live in a university community where most are educated and, indeed, show it, at least on the outside. God only knows how many of them, if any, might be Crosseyedmary-like on the inside.

It saddens me to hear anyone speak in such a way so, while it also entertains me -- and is the main reason that I include this chat here -- I also include it as a good example of an unreasonably foul-mouthed form of verbal expression that Rightwingers need to stop emulating. Let’s itemize the offending words.

The directly offensive ones:
1. Fuck
2. Nutsack
3. mu(n)ching-rug
4. shit
5. dirty
6. circumcize
7. ass
8. beasts

I can only guess what “mu(n)ching-rug” actually means. Can anyone define it for us? If you know, click the comments link at the end of this article.

There are also otherwise neutral words used in conjunction with the foul ones that, because of the context, are tarnished enough to be also counted:
1. yourself
2. coming
3. pregnant
4. inhaled
5. bucket
6. Men

Assessment
In her chat of eighty-six words, Crosseyedmary employs eight that are foul and six that are adequately tarnished, for a total of fourteen, comprising sixteen percent of the vocabulary she used in this chat.

Also of note is that she directs her foul-mouthed invective, not to just one chatter, but to several, and to the entire male gender as well: Natchez, Txrenegade, Grrl, Henry, Dosset, and men.

It would not be a stretch to conclude that Crosseyedmary uses what many regard as being the language of a sailor.

- begin -
Natchez: How many of you REALLY think Crosseyedmary is a woman? *S*

Crosseyedmary: Natchez, go fuck yourself.

Crosseyedmary: Txrenegade, think so? Try coming near me. I'll circumcize you at the nutsack.

Crosseyedmary: Grrl (who is openly gay) is worried about reproductive rights...as if she would ever get pregnant by mu(n)ching-rug.

Crosseyedmary: Henry, well...if I stuck my face in a bucket of shit and inhaled really hard, I might be able to stop laughing.

Crosseyedmary: Dosset is dirty, he dont wash his ass.

Crosseyedmary: Men are beasts.

Crosseyedmary:: Billflett is almost as crude as Natchez....

Crosseyedmary: : vanax...shut up already... sheesh... what a dossnatch!

Well, there you have it. Gorgon Crosseyedmary makes her inaugural remark with “go fuck yourself” to one person and wraps it up with the sweeping generalization that “Men are beasts,” perhaps indicating that she makes generalizations about men from too small of a sampling -- one in this case --, to justify her conclusion. *S*

Endnote: After Crosseyedmary read her chat above, she accused me and Natchez of altering her posts. This, of course, is not true: Natchez has none of my passwords that would allow him to enter my blog to make alterations. This restriction, therefore, makes it impossible for him to alter Crosseyedmarty’s posts. The chats are recorded verbatim, and I made no alterations to the content. Any editing was made by employing punctuation that clarifies, specifically to distinguish the chatter from the chattee: I added a colon (:) to the end of the chatter’s name and a comma (,) to the end of the chattee’s name.

Example
Crosseyedmary: Natchez, go fuck yourself.

But I suspect that the gorgon Crosseyedmary was shocked, perhaps embarrassed, to see a record of her own despicable language, so attempted to throw doubt on the veracity of her posts and on my honesty in order to moderate the negative impact her contemptible language was having in the formation of opinions made by others about her. Shifting the blame, a common logical fallacy, and one often used by Rightwingers, was here used by her.

In essence, she lied in her reaction, and I was surprised that she did not own up to her very own words that I correctly record here.
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file: Crosseyedmary.rtf

Tejanobob

3-5-2006 (769 words)
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Chat Duelers
Literati: Benden, Gangi, IamCowboyJake, SALTCLOUD, SaPanther, Vanax
Illiterati: TejanoBob, Zulz

Note: One day, long ago, TejanoBob and Benden engaded themselves in a heroic poetry duel. Luckily, I was there to capture the best stanzas. Rigel introduces the innovative concept of “spam haiku.” It may have potential for development in the field of unsolicited online advertising.

- begin -
TejanoBob
Benden's only entertainment
Is wrestling old people to the pavement.
Trying to steal their social security
I doubt he'll outgrow his immaturity.

Benden
TejanoBob is tired, he’s had enough.
So then he shaves old ZULZ stuff.
He sticks his prize into a jar
And labels it, my golden star?

TejanoBob
Heh heh heh heh . Obviously, Benden thinks HE's emenem. I think not.

TejanoBob
Easy to make boasts you have no intention of backing up.

TejanoBob
Benden accuses others of being freaks
as his own identity he desperately seeks.
You see, he has none in the realz.
And before his "friends"he nightly kneals.

vanax
Tjb, are you saving this duel? I hope so. I want it.

TejanoBob
Are you kidding? This is drivel. I'm not saving it.

TejanoBob
WE can only guess what medication Benden takes.
The only erection he gets he fakes
When he gives himself a finger
wave and hollers, "SNAKES."

gangi
I think my six year old twin grandsons could do better.

TejanoBob
Well, Benden, I'll say this ..... your verse is better than your normal drivel.

TejanoBob
I thought I'd die from laughter, and satisfaction too
The night that Benden reached for the KY Jelly
but grabbed Superglue.
What a shock to his for his one-night stand.
It's a damned good thing it was only his hand.

Benden
TejanoBob and Zulz they masturbated
They realized they were constipated.
They grabbed their forks put on their bibs
And fed each other laxatives

TejanoBob
Benden, Your verse is beginning to make no sense (because it's disparaging Zulz).

Zulz
Benden ate dog shit
He liked it
He didn't spit it out
He is a sick bastard, no doubt

TejanoBob
Benden's only entertainment
Is wrestling old people to the pavement.
Trying to steal their social security
I doubt he'll outgrow his immaturity.

TejanoBob
Benden accuses others of being freaks
as his own identity he desperately seeks.
You see, he has none in the realz.
And before his "friends"he nightly kneals.

SaPanther
if ya's were really good, ya'd be doin' hiku !!

Rigelian
if you're really really good you'd be doing spam hiku...

SaPanther
spam hiku ... *LOL*

TejanoBob
Well, Benden, I'll say this ..... your verse is better than your normal drivel.

TejanoBob
I thought I'd die from laughter, and satisfaction too
the night that Benden reached for the KY Jelly but grabbed Superglue. What a shock to his for his one-night stand.
It's a damned good thing it was only his hand.

TejanoBob
WE can only guess what medication Benden takes.
The only erection he gets he fakes
When he gives himself a finger wave and hollers, "SNAKES."

TejanoBob
Benden accuses others of being freaks
as his own identity he desperately seeks.
You see, he has none in the realz.
And before his "friends"he nightly kneals.

IamCowboyJake
At everypoint in time,....someone in pop/rock music/culture is being vilified. I'm sure that people like Madonna, Courtney Love and Marilyn Manson survived all the tsk tsking,...just as enenem will too.

TejanoBob
When it comes to the intellect department, CowboyJerk just doesn't have it.

TejanoBob
Benden feels he must post, even if it makes no sense.
If he holds it in it makes him tense.
The pressure builds, and his eyes bulge out.
And he just has to explode in the drivel he spouts.

TejanoBob
Why is Benden so interested in scatological things?
He's always checking out what my diet brings.
His right to a hobby I don't refute,
But I wish he'd find a different pursuit.

Fifteen minutes pass by

vanax
While Gangi could spar with TejanoBob
Her brain is fixated on her grandsons
Whatever for; They don't even chat here.
It's time for Gangi to sip some beer. *S*

TejanoBob
Poor vanax .... Your poem is a day late, and a dollar short. Seems to be a liberal thing.

SaltCloud Cloud does the Polyanna Rag

Saltcloud
TJ and Bendon like to stand....
toe to toe and hand to hand....
And though they both spout out much drivel....
they are in fact in real life civil.

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file: TJBob

Dora

Wednesday, 3-9-2006 (1698 words)
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Cast Of Characters:
The sane: Dora, Imzadi, Ladys, Vanax
The insane: Mystysea, Sirsocal

Note: Dora chats about tomatoes and MistySea exhibits nostility toward them.

- begin -
MistySea: Vanax, a couple of years ago Hillary referred to Al D'Amato as Senator Tomato. That's bigoted, but went by the boards in the mainstream.

Vanax: Misty, so do you wish that your Rightwing media would call Hillary anti-tomato?

Dora: Are there any Italians here?

Vanax: Dora, you know I am italian. I was born there.

Dora: Vanax... would you be insulted if I called you tomato? .

Vanax: Dora, You are making me laugh. Generally, no. But it would depend on who said it. For example, if Farrakhan said it repeatedly as he growled at the audience, well, that would transform the vegetable reference into an ethnic slur. Still, I am not sure if I would feel insulted.

MistySea: Dora, would you be insulted if someone called you a “fucking Jew bastard”?

Dora: Misty... yeah fucking jew bastard is slur no question... except it kinda loses its meaning when hurled at non jew...

MistySea: Dora, how about if I called you a bagel?

Dora: Misty... nope I certainly would NOT get upset if you called me a bagel... would be far better than other stuff Ive been called here *L*

Dora: Misty...You can call me bagel or tomato any time...

SirSoCal: Dora, Why would anyone want to call you tomato. It seems to me that, if anything, you would be called a bagel, right?

Ladys: Dora, you are not insulted when someone calls you a bagel?

Dora: Ladys... actually I would prefer to be called tomato rather than bagel... tomato sounds sexier somehow

Dora: Sure SoCal... or ma petite chou if you like... that means little cabbage ya know *G*

SirSoCal: Dora, Would you be offended if I call you a banana?

Dora: SirSoCal, whats wrong with banana?... I think that could be kinda sexy.

Dora: I have to get some sleep... I even enjoy sleeping

Imzadi: Dora, how can you enjoy something while you are unconscious?
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file: DoraFromMedit.rtf

Gemini

Sunday, 3-19-2006 (547 words)
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Chatteristi
The sane: Dora, Gemini, Spektre
The mildly insane: HogRider
The insane: Danger

Note: Let’s remember that a Rightwinger recently invaded Gemini’s private life. You can make of it what you will from reading Dana’s chat on my blog. The chatter Gemini was so disturbed, outraged, and felt so violated that she had to abandon chatting here, especially chatting with that chatter, for a few weeks to sort it all out. Luckily, Gemini returned and here she displays her thoughtful posts, primarily with another thoughtful chatter, Spektre.

- begin -
Gemini: Spektre, I wonder how many abortions are performed, daily, on teenagers who come from very conservative households... *Shhhh...this will be our little secret*

Dora: Gemini, well it's probably not gays who are having abortions.

Spekter: Gemini, if they have greater means to money, and a private doctor...likely there will be no, or certainly LESS statistics on this. If abortion were made against the law, the only ones that would have them are well to do girls.

HogRider: Gemini, You need to look in Pol's ass for the answer.........................

Gemini: Spektre, I used to work at a Jesuit college, two blocks from Planned Parenthood. Guess where the majority of the Planned Parenthood services went? Then guess where the majority of their support came from?

Danger: Gemini, Jesuit faculty was using Planned Parenthood?

Gemini: Hint: The (abortion ) supporters were NOT the same as those most likely to use the services.

Spektre: Money buys anything, even if a service (such as abortion in some states) is illegal, money allows you to get around it. If abortion is made illegal, this will allow well-to-do girls to still get them, perhaps from private doctors, who will refer them to a doctor in canada or something. The black girls, poor girls...off to the alley and a coathanger would be my bet.

Gemini: Spektre, majority of services went to students and faculty/staff at the college. Majority of support came from the off-campus community. Gemini: Spek, in other words, it was not the ''welfare moms and daughters'' as Reaganzo the idiot indicated that would do it most likely, it was mostly well to do families, white women.

Spektre: Gemini, which is why I would never support making abortion illegal. I'd approach it from the other side to reduce it, and that is through education, and increased access to healthcare and contraception. Yet the religious right, or at least a good portion of them, don't like that avenue either. What they want....then...is to hold women, especially poor women...down.

Gemini: Spektre, absolutely. Contraception and ''pregnancy alternatives'' have always been more available to women with the means to purchase them. Poor women have babies.

Danger: Gemini, not if I have anything to say about it.

Gemini: Danger, people won't stand for outlawing abortion. If abortion were outlawed, the pro-abortion people would be making as much noise as the anti-abortion people do now. The only reason the proabortion people don't make noise is they are not worried about losing the right. They are in the majority, after all.
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file: Gemini

Imzadi New

Wednesday, 3-9-2006 (1698 words)
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Chatteristi

The Found: Bon, Dy, IamCowboyJake, Imzadi, Kewp, Pinko, Spektre, Vanax,

The Lost: BlackTygrrrr, Boneman, Heyheyjulia, HoneyBadger, Yabutt, PanMan, Rona

Note: Imzadi’s inner warrior is Zena, a mythical warrior conceived in comic books and popularized on TV. In previous chats, Imzadi has not denied to collecting gonads -- calling them “nads” -- that she stores in jars in her basements to dry. It is alleged that sometimes she brings them out and tucks them under her pillow to act as a sleep inducer. If true, being close to severed nads is probably a calmative that helps her fall into deep, satisfying asleep. Imzadi is admired for this skillful pratice that she usually performs on chat Pods. Chat Podology is a concept Spektre originally introduced. He defines a Pod as a chatter displaying the behaviors of a lemming in combination with ignorance. Imzadi’s cutting reaction (not recorded in this chat) sometimes compels even those who are otherwise intelligent and patriotic perform defensive obeisance at her feet. Example:

Doss: Imzadi, Sorry.....but I get all syrrupy and sweet when you come into the room and kick the shit out of rightwingers. *S*

She is also admired for being a skilled writer with impeccable syntax. If only bad writers could learn from her, all the rains would stop and all storm would go away.

- begin part I -
Imzadi: I don't know. The chat room said I don't have an inner life. I don't. So, how it is going would be pretty irrelevant. Right?

Heyheyjulia: Oh gawd, I think Imzadi is about to spill her inner self

Dy: Imzadi, your only problem is that you talk too much and divulge your innermost self. of course you don't realize it.

Imzadi: Dy, since I began chatting here 8 years ago, I've made it policy and very well known that I find it a waste to share my inner self. Whatever that is.

Then Imzadi proceded to waste time sharing her inner self that she could not identify.

Imzadi: Well, besides being psychotic, I am pathologically psychotic and am messianic and a bitch.

Pinko: imzy..u have coals in your stockings? must make u walk funny!

Imzadi: I don't deserve any cards. I have no heart.

Imzadi: pink jellybean more likely someone will toss water on me and melt me.

Imzadi: I don't know. I do know I was commanding a million man army in the dream. I guess I am a megalomaniac

Imzadi: Doss. I think these chats actually help the participants. I view myself as a teacher, not necessarily a teacher in a formal classroom, but more like an ancient Greek philosophyer. My role is to affect people and hope it has a fundamental ripple effect generations down the road.

BlackTygrrrr: Wow...it must be armageddon...i completely agree with imzadi...shaking head in confusion.

Imzadi: BlackTygrrrr, if you agree with me, then you are in serious trouble. According to HoneyBadger, I am a bitter old cow. Therefore you too will be a bitter old cow by association

Imzadi: Well. One of the psychologists at work did call me "bitter" the other day, but then I had to consider the source. She used to be a cheerleader when she was in high school and voted in as "miss popular."She was chatting me up and pretending to want to be my friend for the umpteenth time. But she strangely never had actual time to actually spend a lunch hour. So I told her what I thought of this behavior. And she said I was "bitter"

BlackTygrrrr: imzadi...i could agree with both of you then and pull a clinton...you could be a perceptive bitter old cow, since perception and disposition are mutually exclusive, not to mention

Imzadi: If an old cow were perceptive, then it would not be bitter unless it was actually perceiving a world where, if one perceived it correctly, the proper emotional response should be to be bitter *G*

HoneyBadger: Zadi: My position? On what? Whether you're a bitter old cow or whether a person is actually comprised by parts of those he/she agrees with???

Imzadi: HoneyBadger, Yes. I am trying to figure out your position. If someone agrees with me 100% of the time, then, to you, is the person who

IamCowboyJake: Imzadi: - if you were a bitter old cow, Devo wouldn't be so jealous of you. lol.

Imzadi: You make the presumption she is jealous of me.

Imzadi: I am blessed that I am not condemned to have to think with testicles

mzadi: Don't accuse me of being sweet

vanax: But you have your moments!

Imzadi: What a horrid thing to say! I am not sweet so don’t have those moments.

Imzadi: {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Spektre}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Turns into sugar and give the Spook a big hug.

Imzadi: Spektre. What was the name of that Chinese emperor who sat on a wicker chair on top of a bunch of tied together rockets so he could go to the moon?

Imzadi: Oh. I found the name of the guy who sat in a wicker chair on top of a bunch of rockets: Wan-Hu. Yes. Wan-Hu is like Bush deploying an ABM system.

Spektre: Hey Zadi!!! I believe that was Emperor Ming.

Vanax: Hi Spek, this Missile Defense is bugging me cause I see no rational reason for it. The latest boogieman Bush & Lott trotted out is some "enemy from space". I don't see no enemy about ready to throw bombs down at the US. Do you?

Spektre: Vanax...thats because THERE IS NO rational for it....except welfare for the defense industry

Rona: You know, I don't like Bush.....but I think that it is a wise thing to try to defence his country against some crazy states which have missiles..

Imzadi: I don't know why anyone would arrive at the conclusion I am sweet. Maybe I need to castrate more people

Imzadi: Imzadi: proves to Maxwell she is not sweet.

Imzadi: Major Midknight. Just as there is no blood in your kidneys, there is no blood in my veins. Only ice water

Pan Man: zadi isn't anything outside of the scope of religion "of the devil"??

Imzadi: Then I MUST be the devil!!!

SaPanther: Major .. if you think so little of science, why don't you try using your faith to survive ?? The ONLY reason you are alive is because of science!!

~Private Message Sent to Zulz*~

Prapius: Zulz, I have a crush on the bitch Imzadi. If she told me she likes me I would treat the world better.............!

Imzadi: Crapus, No need to insult me. Geez. Here are your nads. Slice and eat them.

Boneman: Would not be a good place to have a crush on Zadi.

Imzadi: That is correct. Having a crush on me is not good. It would be like, well, it would be like being locked in a small room with an angry cobra facing you.

Imzadi : I am one who fertilizes the minds of trainees and gets them to understand the ways of the Force. Master Dosset and Natchez are the ones who concern themselves with the logistics of who will do the fighting.

- begin part 2 -

Imzadi: Dy, I feel that I could chat about my feelings and innards, but then, I could chat about it with any third world illiterate peasant. It takes no education to chat about feelings. Any dweeb can do that. Why squander time chatting about inner selves when there are people who read here to chat with? If I want to chat about inner touchy feely stuff, I can go find a peasant on the street and do that. It takes no education to engage on that subject

Imzadi: Besides, I've spent so many years ignoring my inner self, that i don't think I have one anymore and good riddance to it

Dy: Imzadi, well thank you and you just devulged yourself. Honestly I must admit. Hugs.

Imzadi: Dy, besides, no one ever asks me about my so-called ''inner self'' They just accuse me of having different things in my ''inner self'' So, since they already assume they know my inner self, then why volunteer something if they never ever ask?

Imzadi: Julia, believe me. It's empty: nothing there. Got rid of the damned thing long ago.

Dy: Imzadi: keep your inner self to yourself.

Yabutt: Oh hi imzadi hows the migraines?

Imzadi: Yabutt, seems that glutens were the main culprit. Under control now.

Yabutt: Imzadi, well the last message i read from u was drunk

Imzadi : Yabutt, sorry to disappoint you. I don't get drunk. I have no need to escape from my inner experience. You see, I don't have an inner experience. I am superficial and shallow and have no demons bothering me. Hence, no need to drink.

Yabutt: Imzadi, well u should cause i am really drinking now

Imzadi: Yabutt, but the sauce hasn't hit your mean streak yet.

Yabutt: Imzadi, Zadi are u suzy?

Imzadi: I wish i were THAT creative (like Suzy). Sorry. No. I even have suzy on iggy since I reclassified her as a purely non-political. If she were even 1% political, i'd not iggy her. But she is pretty worthless.

Yabutt: Imzadi, U are telling me i have a mean streak what did i ever say mean to u?

Imzadi: Yabutt, when you get really sauced up, you take a baseball bat to everyone in the chat room. But you never remember because you go so deep into it, you go into blackout stage

Vanax: Zadi, then you are a Vulcan?

Imzadi: That would be ideal. They are heartless, like me.

Imzadi: Right. There is no such thing as ''sin''

Imzadi: SFChris, America could use a good depression and economic collapse. It would teach them a lesson like the last great depression did.

Yabutt: Imzadi, she is u and u are her that was so funny

Imzadi: Yabutt, I can't be Suzy. Suzy is all sugar and nice. How you possibly think I'd have any niceness in me? That's sick.

Vanax: Zadi, but Vulcans have something of an emotional ''demon'' in them. You would be OK with just a bit of their kind of demon inside you.

Imzadi reveals that her inner self is a demon.

Imzadi: Well, since I am not Vulcan, I opt to just love my inner demon

Yabutt: Imzadi, ok so tell me what i dont remember that u remember i dont remember?

Imzadi: Yabutt, don't worry about it. you can be mean to me. You've done it for years and I don't hold it against you

Doss: I've always thought Imzadi was nice.

Imzadi: Dosset, You're not supposed to think that. Thought-crime

Imzadi: Yabutt, I don't really care that you were mean to me. Doesn't matter

Kewp: I cant see zadi's feelings gettin hurt in a chatroom

Imzadi: Dosset, you have to have a spine made of jelly to allow what people say here to hurt your feelings.

Bon: When you look at pictures of Imzadi you have to realize right away that she simply must be laughing at so many of you who think this character she has created for chat in some way resembles the actual person behind the curtain.
- end –

File: Imzadi.rtf

Abortion Chat

Wednesday, 3-9-2006, (753 words)
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Chatteristi
The sane: Dora, Gemini, HogRider, Imzadi, Kewp, Natchez, Pfrog, SaPanther, Spektre, Unsoma, Vanax
The insane: BlackTygrrrr, ChristianAreGood, Danger, Gunther, MajorMidknight, PolInc, TaoKapow, Yabutt

Note: Freewheeling chat on abortion.

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Gunther: Im shacking up with Prap, he has offered me a room.
Pfrog: Gunther, no one here is gettin' any, stud.
TaoKapow: Kewp, men fuck. then go off and do other things. women can't seem to.
TaoKapow: Cecilia, most veneral diseases can be prevented by only having clean women, and rubbing your tackle with alcohol afterwards.
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- begin -
PolInc: Poor women shouldn't be fuckin'...

Natchez: PolInc, Neither should home schooled nitwits like you (be fuckin’).

SaPanther: PolInc made the classic conservo mistake in here - he provided a cite that torpedoed his own claims ...

HogRider: If abortion becomes illegal, I think many people will quit screwing.......................

Turaloora: Natchez, a poor woman can get condoms at planned pregnancy. No excuse to get pregnant Natchez: Turaloora, And by GOD I'm going to make it MY business (Uhuh)!!!!! *S*

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Unsoma: Natchez, celibacy is the answer.

Natchez: Unsoma, not if you don't like sex.
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Imzadi: It seems to me that as the dollar begins to seriously sag, the US loses the war in Iraq, and oil rises sky high, they won't be able to have the luxury of trying to divert people to abortion.

Kewp: I sometimes support the right woman making decisions with my body, however.

PolInc: SaPanther, if it's MY sperm, it's MY pregnancy....

Gemini: I'm getting some WHILE chatting...and painting my nails. FACT.

Imzadi: They are trying to tell us that only scum get abortions. Imzadi: And all this time I thought the scum were the fathers who massively skip out on child support.

Imzadi, Kewp, ban abortion and the rich will just go to another state or country and get the abortion. Seems easy. The poor will have the babies and get on welfare.

Lurker: Folks, seriously, has making prostitution illegal stopped prostitution? Has making recreational drugs illegal stopped the use of recreational drugs? Making alcohol illegal, did that stop boozers? And folks think making abortion a crime is gonna do something (to stop it)?

Pfrog: Lurker, has chatting stopped idiocy?

HogRider: The proper implementation of abortion would, in the future, remove the need for an ignore feature in here.

Imzadi: It's cheaper to give a poor woman an abortion at public expense than to pay welfare for her brat.

Christianaregood: Making abortion illegal will cause people to be more careful about creating unwanted pregnancies. Society will benefit twice - fewer abortions and fewer unwanted children.

Toker: Imzadi, but then all this is moot once the morning after pill is finally made readily available.

Dora: Hog I don't believe that it's only women who want the abortion.

ChristianAreGood: i don't think we have the luxury of having the next admin. follow the status quo, be it Demo or Repub. What we need now is not merely to wean ourselves from foriegn oil, as Bush suggests, but from fossil fuels altogether. and we need a national push of great effort to do that. and i think we CAN do it.

Lurker: ChristiansAreGood, do you really believe this to be true?

Kewp: Tokapow, yikes! rubbing your tackle with alcohol?? that would burn , wouldnt it?

Imzadi: I am all in favor of requiring women on welfare to agree to take under the skin birth control as a condition of receiving welfare. And sterilization seems fine with me.

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Dora: Yeah nothing better than an unwanted child
Yabutt: Dora, true in some cases but women are the ones who were given the gift to have babies
Dora: Yabutt, it's only a gift if you want it.
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Christianaregood: Lurker, To legalize suicide is to encourage suicide, much like abortion.

MajorMidknight: ChristianAreGood, the fact is, abortion IS legal, and most americans profess NOT TO BELIEVE in abortion, therefore, cannot possibly be ''promoting'' abortion. Most americans find abortion abhorrent, even though most believe it should be legal.

Rigel: We're still in the abortion debate eh?

Pfrog: [ignored: -Imzadi-Rr-Sapanther-Sher-Majormidknight-Rigelian-Tut-Synth-Rockytop-Sacksman-Sacksman-Dino-Marta8point5-Richweb-Cavu-Polinc-Palerider-Ooda-Rocksteady-Delmer-Griff73-Hotrod-Tejanobob-Christians-Drnaughty-Toy911-Intrepid-Roostercogburn-Natchez-Zandak-Hornball-Danger-Prapius-Cecilia-Dwightvol-Kaslin-Kaslin-Zajak-Yabutt-Unsoma] [pic ignored:]

Dora: Pfrog, thank god!

Vanax: Pfrog, most of those you put on ignore are either Rightwingers or putrid-tards. Oh, putting so many chatters on ignore means you are wasting your time chatting in this chat room. *S*
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file: Abortion-Chat.rtf

Abortion Stats

Wednesday, 3-9-2006, (461 words)
http://www.sfwest.com/ Click Boston Tea Party chat room
Join us there for lively issues chat, or chat with specific individuals, in real time 27/7.

Chatteristi (varify these chatters)
The sane: Dora, HogRider, Imzadi, Kewp, Natchez, SaPanther, Vanax
The insane: Gunther, PolInc, TaoKapow, Yabutt

Note: Freewheeling chat on abortion statistics where we authoritatively throw some serious numbers around. I include it as an example of
using statistics to obfuscate others and to confuse oneself.

- begin -
Dora: Natchez, 2.5% black babies aborted by liberals?

Natchez, Dora, no, it says most of the abortions were performed by conservatives.

SaPanther: 32% of conservatives have forced abortions onto their daughters ...

Natchez: PolInc, if you look at the URL Polinc provided, it says 2.5 percent, not 25 percent.

Natchez: ''Dear Lord, help polinc to remember to include the decimal next time. Amen.''

Natchez: Kewp, Polinc left out the decimal. *S*

Vanax: Natchez, PolInc left to find the decimal point he misplaced somewhere. “Where is that dang dot?”

Kewp: Dora, where did that number come from?? Dora: Kewp, it's a mystery fer sure.

Natchez: PolInc, If you do the actual math with the numbers Polinc provided, you get 2.5 percent.

Polinc: Natchez, I'm a private school teacher...I CAN do the math...*snicker*...

HogRider: Polinc, yes, (while you can do the math), getting the correct answer is one of the (very important) objectives.

PolInc: Hogrider, Not if you're in a public school.

Natchez: Polinc went to public schools, and got a terrible education. *S*

Natchez: Polinc, It's 2.5 percent.

Kewp: *lol* Natchez

Vanax: Guera, a staunch Catholic, believes that involuntary incestuous pregnancies should not be aborted for any reason.

Dora: Natchez, so what's the 2.5%?

Vanax: PolInc, what percentage of Righwinger dads have impregnated their innocent daughters and refused to allow them to abort?

Natchez: Vanax, 65%. Do the math. *S*

Vanax: Natchez, hmmm. I take issue with 65%. I say 71%. *S*

Natchez: Vanax, OK, your statistic is better. *S*

Vanax: PolInc, on the other hand, let’s guess at some basic numbers: Say that 50% of Rightwinger dads impregnated their daughters, and if only 50% of the daughters were innocent which is 25%, and, of this 25%, 80% of them refused to have their daughters have an abortion, then the answer is 20%.

That is, 20% of Rightwinger dads who impregnated their daughthers jealously guarded their right as a parent to refuse to allow their daughters to abort the dad’s children.

SaPanther: According to my quick research: About 2% of pregnancies end in abortion each year. The idea that 25% of black pregnancies end in abortion is very, very suspect.

Vanax: PolInc, I guess at least 20% these dads who molest their innocent children are strongly pro-children. *S*
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file: Abortion-Stats.doc

Spektre

Wednesday, 3-17-2006 (578 words)

http://www.sfwest.com/ Click on Boston Tea Party
Join us there for lively chat in real time with Spektre and other chatters.

Chatmeisters:
Americans: Mensch, Spektre, Vanax
Dissidents: SaPanther

Note: Of all the chatters, Spektre is one of only a handful that chats in a more thoughtful and deliberate way.

- begin -

Spektre: Vanax...did you get (my chat on) Tacitus (that I wrote long ago about) on your blog yet?

Vanax: Spektre, not yet, but I will...soon. Unsoma said that my blog sensationalizes the trivial. This is true, but only about what chatters say. And I do it because it's fun and it records human foibles, ours. But the blog also has hard politics. For example, I translated the whole of the State of the Union from lies to truth. So it's not solely trivial. Of all the chatters’ chats that I recorded, yours -- the one about Tacitus -- is the most serious so far.

Spektre: Mensch....I as well. Tacitus strikes me...as the best of the "noble savages"of the time....a true thinking, fair, honor bound warrior.

Spektre: Mensch, I much prefer Tacitus.

Spektre: Life is about being folded, spindled, and mutulated....trying to extract what pleasure you can, inbetween..and if you are able...give a little BACK. Thats the jist of it IMHO.

MENSCH: Spektre, Annals of Imperial Rome has always been my favourite.

SaPanther: Spektre, it's the fact you can't 'embrace' the truth of the cynic that means you aren't one ... of course there is some truth to the cynical view, as there is truth to the optimists view ... but I've know you long enough to know you don't ruly believe everyone is a greedy asshole; and that the world operates on machiavellian principles .. everyone is greedy, if you use a very broad definition of the word ,, but then again, people are capable of outstanding examples of selflessness ... if you think a firefighter goes into a burning building because of greed, I think someone has missed the point.

Spektre: Panther, thats nice of you*S*...but the only reason I might be called a romantic...is I can't bare to embrace what I feel often times, is the truth of the cynic...I believe the world IS mostly dark....So I just try to search for the weee little bits of light. *S*

Spektre: Mensch, I as well. Tacitus strikes me...as the best of the "noble savages"of the time....a true thinking, fair, honor bound warrior.

MENSCH: Spektre, Tacitus gaves us the most penetrating insight into Nero...that's what I thank him for.

Spektre: "The worst crime was dared by a few, willed by more, and tolerated by all"-Tacitus.

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SFChris

Saturday, 3-18-2006 (804 words)
http://www.sfwest.com/ Click Boston Tea Party chat room
Join us there for lively chat in real time with SFChris and other thoughtful chatters.

Conversationlists
Prattlers: Tommy, Vanax
Gabblers: SFChris, Imzadi

Note: Sfchris’s informed and exclusive focus on political, economic, and social topics of national and international import makes him appear to be engaged on improving the human condition. Because he is the least cynical of any of our chatters, anyone wanting to discuss issues seriously can do no better than to engage him.

While others resort to ad hominem, trivia, or cheap debate tricks, either in whole or in part, he usually sticks to thoughtful discussions of critical issues, moving the chat topic forward.

- begin -
Sfchris: Tommy, in SF, straight guys at my gym ASK for gay guy's opinions. And (this is) not just about how best to work out, but how to get pretty for females. Hell, I’ve had straight men ask me about venues for dates, and what they should wear. Hell, I’ve seen gay men announce to the entire locker room, ''Boyz, it's Valentine's Day! Don't forget!'' There's a pretty common camaraderie between gay and straight men in SF. But that's just San Francisco, I guess.

SFChris: But I know what it COULD be like for gays and straights across the nation. I observe the future here. Or at least what I think it's likely the future will be like. No hatred, but mutual respect. Men are generally the worst in that regard. Women are better. Lesbian friendships with straight women…they tend to be more honest in the USA, I think.

Sfchris: Imzadi, basically here, some right-wingers prefer to talk abortion and gays to the very real problems we have in Iraq. Other right-wingers have been more forthcoming. I think they're worried as well. Little has been said about solutions regarding Iraq, myself included. I’d probably stick by my anti-globalization attitude, and want to promote alternative energy development on the scale of monies currently poured into war. But that's just me.

Sfchris: Imzadi, yes, karma. But we're both Californians. We can dig the highs and lows of karma. And America sent out some really shitty vibes. Now we're forced to accept them back. Let's start with ‘‘we know best what's right for the rest of the world.'' a measure we ourselves can't evidently accommodate. Then we can move to ''We'll FORCE YOU AT GUNPOINT to be like us.'' Hardly an attractive proposition, especially when it's based on lies and sheer corporate greed. Oh well.

Sfchris: We were good (presumably at implementation) when we were good (presumably at heart). We did beat Hitler, and for the first time (in the history on any conquering nation), provided the Marshall Plan to not only invigorate our former enemies economically, but also give them their own independence and self-determination. And they did prosper. Actually they prospered enough to become competitors! *L* That was probably our finest achievement in the last century. But those nations actually ATTACKED us, unlike Iraq (which did not provoke the US).

SFChris: Tommy, as in Greek tragedies, we gained enough hubris to create our downfall. It's sad but true. And we followed buffoons and idiots who were belligerent to their own ends, all the while pampering our bloated vanity.

Vanax: Sfchris: Small but important point here, but your use of “our” and “we” is attempting to implicate bad gov. or the atrocious decisions by subversive Bush. “We,” which includes you and I, of course, but you probably did not mean to implicate us in the replacement of the US Constitution with the US Patriot Act, we did not lie about WMDs, nor did we attack Iraq. It was you-know-who -- the fucktard in the WH’s unlit closets. I say this because I want to minimize the phenomenon that the idea often becomes the reality.

Tommy: SFChris, ultimately, I think it depends of a person's insecurities. If they do not fell secure about who they are, either sexually or from a self-esteem point of view, then that can turn a tolerant and open person into a fearful and guarded, of not intolerant, person.

Sfchris: Imzadi, see ya later Imzadi. I have little doubt we'll be checking out real estate in Costa Rica before too very long and dealing in pesos that will be more valuable than dollars. But hell, worse things could happen. Just look around the USA. Inbred pinheads will be running home schools, and teaching de-evolution to dirty-faced kids clutching the their old Testaments, while the minister/principle dances around with rattlesnakes under a solar eclipse. See ya in Costa Rica. I’ll shave some ice for your margarita. Adios!

Imzadi: Sfchris, Costa Rica would be nice Chris. Good night

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Lindsmil

Sunday, 3-19-2006 (517 words)
http://www.sfwest.com/ Click Boston Tea Party chat room
Join us there for lively chat in real time with Lindsmil and other Rightwingers.

Chatteristici
The strong: Doss, Imzadi, Kewp, MangosShadow, Unrepentent, Vanax
The weak: Lindsmil, Mysticmatrix, Danger

Note: Vanax challenged Lindsmil to apologize for misrepresenting what he said because she used the misrepresentation as the basis to justify calling him two derogatgory names for which he also asked another apology.

- begin -

Vanax: It looks that Julia really likes Doss. She can't stop harassing him. Stop it Julia.

Dosset: Vanax, I've asked Julia to stop harassing me. She won't stop. She's fixated with silencing me. She keeps badgering me. I think she's pissed at me cause Natchez wouldn't slip her some sympathy dick.

Lindsmil: looks like vanax is gonna have his lips on dosset's ass all night as usual....

Vanax: Lindsmil,, translation: ''I, Lindsmil, being of sound mind and bod, hope that Vanax starts chatting with me soon."

• (Notice that Lindsmil begins to speak to me directly indicated by the use of “you” when addressing me.

Lindsmil: Vanax, you are just a dosset cheerleader. why the fuck would I want you to chat with me? Be gone! Vanax: Lindsmil, why should I be gone? Notice that you engaged me in a conversation. It meant you wanted to talk with me. I guess you don't know when you start conversations, but then blame the other person for doing so.

Lindsmil: Vanax, I was talking ABOUT you, not TO you dumbarse.

Vanax: Lindsmil, you just said that you were talking about me?

Vanax: Lindsmilmil, notice that you started to talk to me. Not me. Use the ignore feature. I guess you don't know that you start conversations and then blame the other person for doing so.

Lindmil: Vanax, I was talking ABOUT you, not TO you dumbarse.

Vanax: I can see Julia harassing Doss and she likes it. *S*

Unrepent: What’s going on in this room. People are shouting down chatters?

Doss: Unrepentent, what's going on in the room is a reflection of US politics. The rightwingers control the room -- and they shout down, pull the plug on, or otherwise silence those who oppose their jingoist view.

Lindsmilmil: Doss, that's right now sit down and shut your hole.

Imzadi: Kewp, there are non-politicals here Bedazzled. I lump them all together as tarts.

Doss: Vanax, and when people like me and Natchez call them on their lying, they try to have us banned. *S*

Vanax: Lindsmilmil, See, here is the proof that you were talking to me rather than AT me as you wrongly assert.

Lindsmilmil: vanax...you are just a dosset cheerleader. why the fuck would I want you to chat with me? Be gone!
Then you said that you were not talking to me. But you were. I guess you can't read your own writing.

Lindsmil: Have you guys read vanax's blog?

MangosShadow: Lindsmil, I have. Vanax has done some nice writing. You think that his translation of Bush’s 2006 State of the Union is adequate?

Vanax: Lindsmil, notice the word “you” when you addressed me. This means you were talking TO me, not AT me. Oh my. What bad reading on your part, but you are a Rightwinger so it’s to be expected.
Lindsmil, were you talking with me or at me? Read this as a visual aid:

Lindsmilmil: vanax...you are just a dosset cheerleader. why the fuck would I want you to chat with me? Be gone!”

I am here to help you understand what you posted. You should appreciate my remediation. *S*

Lindmil: ok vanax..you win. Im talking to you now...but only to tell you to get over it.

Vanax: Lindmil, no. You were talking TO me before. And you need to tell me what I won by being right. I betcha you don’t even know.

Vanax: Lindsmil uses ''you'' twice in that post and says she is talking AT me. Why is she lying? Maybe she just can't read what she wrote. Or maybe she forgot within the span of five minutes. *G*

Vanax: What did I win Lindsmil?

Lindmil: Vanax, nothing. now leave me alone

Vanax: Lindmil, you said I win and now you say I win nothing. Just what do you mean? And quit harassing me by lying. You lied, or forget, or could not read what you said.

Lindmil: Vanax is obsessed with getting attention from me. someone quick...insult him! Get him off my nuts

Vanax: Lindsmil, you are using a straw man argument. Do you know what that is? You are also using diversion instead of backing your statement. Did you forget, not read what you said, or lie? One of those. Come on. Which is it?

Vanax: I am waiting for Lindsmil to say why she said she was talking about me when she clearly and unambiguously spoke to me as the use of ''you'' clearly indicates.

Lindmil: Vanax, case in point. this is nothing short of a desperate cry for my attention.

Gungadin: Don’t think so Lindsmil. Vanax has demonstrated his case and you are deceitful as in lying about it and you know it.

Lindsmil:...look..Im talking DIRECTLY to you right now. Are you listening? ok good...now fuck off. Buh bye.

Vanax: Lindsmil, you called me a dumbarse. You were beginning to harass me. That's not all, it looks like you made yourself look like a dumbarse because you don't answer if you forgot, lied, or just can't read what you said.

Vanax: Lindsmilmil: Did you forget, not read what you said, or lie? And you said I won. What did I win? Be specific.

Vanax: What did Lindsmil mean that I won?

Doss: Vanax, Rightwingers don't even care sometimes when they're caught lying.

Vanax, Doss, I will give her the benefit of the doubt so I ask her if she forgot or did not read her own post. *S*

Vanax: Hotrod: What did I win from Lindsmil?

Lindsmil: yo fryhead. Vanax is obsessing over me tonight. what snew with you?

Vanax: Lindsmil, you said that I won. What did I win? Bush said that Cindy Sheehan's son died for a noble cause. I guess both Bush and Lindsmil are not willing to back up their respective statements.

Vanax: Lindsmil, ok, easier question: What is the noble cause for which Kasey Sheehand died for Bush's war?

Vanax: Lindsmil called me a dumbarse for knowing that she was wrong and she hated that. Lindsmil, what did I win?

Vanax: Question for chatters: When someone addresses you and uses ''you'' in the address, is the person talking TO you or ABOUT you? *S*Kewp: Vanax, I would think TO you.

Vanax: Sfchris, Hi SF. Lindsmil is afraid to say whether she forgot what she wrote, did not read what she wrote, or just plain lied about she said. *S*

Doss: Vanax, never know for sure. My experience has been that most writers in chat rooms are so poorly equipped, that it's difficult to figure out what they mean to say in most cases.

Lindsmil: Vanax, ok here is the story. in my first post I was talking ABOUT you...then you posted and said I was talking to you..so I DID post to you to reply that my first post was ABOUT you not To you. The you posted that second post that I posted and said I WAS posting to you because of the post...but you KNEW I was refering to the first post and not the second....therefore....YOU are the dumbass. Now get over me you obsessive freak!

Vanax: Lindsmil, No. You are lying. You said you were talking AT me AFTER you had already talked TO me. See? So you are lying and I caught you at it. Give it up. You have been outed. Now let’s watch you dance. How many derogatory names are you going to call me for proving that you lied about me? S

Vanax: Doss, Well, Lindsmil made a big deal of making me look badly. even calling me a dumbarse, for, her implication was, that I did not grasp that she was only talking at me, i.e., addressing me indirectly, and not talking to me. When I pointed out that using ''you'' is an indication that it's a direct address, she got mad and said I won. Now I want to know what it is that I won. But I suspect that she wants to move on without standing up for what she said and my catching her.

Vanax: Lindsmil, you are trying to weasel out of your admission to the statement that I won. What did I win?

Lindsmil: Anyone know if it’s going to rain?
Vanax: LindsmiL, yeah, talk about something else, the rain. I am staying on the topic but you continue to divert it toward ad hominem. Ad hominem is a logical fallacy. Did you know that? Do you often use logical fallacies in your convresations?

Vanax: Lindsmil, yo already admitted that I won, meaning that you lost. When a person admits to losing, then the person should know what the loss was, otherwise the admission is either no admission at all – justy words -- or it's just a way to cut one's losses and go on to the next topic, hopefully not as challenging like you just did. Lindsmil owes me that answer, especially because she called me a derogatory name, all based on her mistake.

Lindsmilmil: Vanax....you ramble on and on about the whole situation for hours and when I break down the events and show what a dumbarse you are you ignore it and continue to pretend you have achieved some victory?

Vanax: Lindsmil, It’s been 20 min. which seems like hours to you because I am not letting you get away with misrepresenting what I said and then calling me deogatory names on top of it.

Vanax: Linsmil, oh, now you say that I did not win? Which is it, did I win or not? You sound mixed up.Lindsmil: Vanax Ok....You are sad. Seriously...go away.
Vanax: Lindsmil, of course you want me to go away because I point out your retarded observation. Sure.

Vanax: Lindsmil, I am speaking clearly, not rambling on. What makes you think that to speak clearly is to ramble?

Vanax: Lindsmill, I might retreat a bit if you admit to losing the argument with me. You already admitted I won. Just say, ''Vanax, you won the argument.” So that we can all know that it was the argument that I won. Can you say that? Very simple.

Lindsmilmil: Vanax..I believe I was saying ''Ok you win...Im now posting TO you''. You won my attention that you were so persistantly trying to get.....but alas, it only lasted a few seconds. Now you keep coming back and trying AGAIN. This will be the last time I respond to your idiotic pleas. THanks and farewell.

Vanax: Lindsmil, no, you are lying. You were talking to me way earlier in the original statement in which you used the “you” to address me. See?
Vanax: Lindsmil: Good. Did I win the argument because I showed you proof that you were talking to me, not ABOUT me? You need to do two things: Admit to saying that you originally used “you” and that you wrongly called me a dumbarse.

VANAX: Then you called me a dumbarse for seeing correctly that you were talking TO me. I want an apology for calling me a dumbarse wrongly, when you should have complimented me by calling me perceptive. Go ahead. Applogise.

Vanax: Lindsmil called me a dumbarse for seeing correctly that she was wrong. I want an apology for her calling me a dumbarse.

Vanax: Lindsmil, I want an apology for calling me a dumbarse when you were the one that made the goof. I want you to say, ''Vanax, I apologize for being wrong, for lying about it, and for calling you a bad name.''

Lindsmilmil: someone tell vanax I said Im sorry he is a dumbarse Vanax: Lindsmil, how can I be a dumbarse when I was correct all along and you were wrong? Where’s the apology?

Lindsmilmi: Hmmmm.....tell vanax to go back to the VERY first post I had ABOUT him....i think it was something like ''Oh great. Vanax is here to put his lips all over Dosset's ass'' or something similar. It was clearly about him and not TO him. But he wants to play stupid and spin spin spin the facts like his two idols do. What a joke. Tell him I apologize for showing what a dumbarse he is.

Vanax: Lindsmil, your next remark to me was talking “TO” me. You are avoiding this. It was only after the next remark that you said you did NOT talk to me. You don’t see the nose in front of your face.

Vanax: It looks like Lindsmil is weaseling out of a righteous apology. I guess she thinks she can get away with a mealy mouthed statement instead.

Lindsmil: Vanax seems a bit obsessive...maybe chemically imbalanced. Cant quite put my finger on it...OH WAIT! yes I can...he is a fucking moron, that's it!

Vanax: Lindsmil, you made the error and then called me a dumbarse for pointing it out. I guess you like to live in errorland.

Vanax: Lindsmil, ad hominem, a logical fallacy of course.

Mysticmatrix: Vanax is sulking.

Vanax: Mysticmatrix, another remark that is logically fallacious. Start addressing the issue, not me.

Lindsmil: He is tryin to take the Dosset approach to this situation and demand proof that he is a dumbass.....but I think he IS the proof. everyime he posts it becomes more apparent.

Vanax: Lindsmil called me a dumbarse, a fuckin moron, and Misty said I am sulking. I am only trying to do Lindsmil a favor to commit to an apology for saying that I am a dumbarse when I was right all along and she admitted it already. Now I just need an apology. Easy, no?

Vanax: Lindsmil, an apology for calling me, wrongly, a dumbarse and a moron.

Vanax: I want to see if Lindsmil has the guts to be truthful and apologize to a man that she called a dumbarse and a moron which was an error because she made the mistake, not me.

Danger: Vanax, what if she's proud of it?

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HogRider

Wednesday, 3-15-2006 (9875 words)

http://www.sfwest.com/ Click on Boston Tea Party
Join us there for lively chat in real time with the entertaining HogRider as well as other shifty individuals.

Chattaholics:
Patriots: Dy, Hogrider, Kewp, Imzadi, Tommy, Saltcloud, Vanax
Subversives: ROBJACK, Dukeofwellington, MajorMidknight, WHIPPLE

Note: Hogrider Chats To No One In Particular. His Catchphrase Is "I Post Primarily To Enable Myself To See What I Think."

- begin 2006 -
Tommy: Kewp, Tommy: I love salmon HogRider: Tommy, How perverted is that...................?

HogRider: Why are so many Republicans named dick...................?

Kewp: HogRider, haahahaha.

HogRider: Lurker, ever waited for an eyeball to heal from a razor slice.....................?

HogRider, I don't give shit about who gets an abortion............. I'm already born

Imzadi: Good one Hog!

Dy: Turaloora, when some women breath they become prego. HogRider: Turaloora, that's what makes necrophilia so attractive...................

MajorMidknight: *ROFL* Hogrider.
- end 2006 -

- begin 2000 -
Hog Rider: How come you can remember that you forgot something, but you can't remember what you forgot? I want to get to the point where I don't remember squat!

Vanax: Well then how will you know why to come here?

Hog Rider: Vanax: Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile..... Maybe I'll just never leave. But, if you forget everything anyhow, all a person would need is a single post, he could just keep reading it over, and over, and over again and again.......

Vanax: Funny! You are describing Alsheimer’s desease. Hog, if you listen to Dosset and TJB and to Zulz then you might as well be mindless given all of their repetitive posts with only minor variations. *S*

• note: Bush and Gore are still contesting Flarida ballots on November 24, 2000. HogRider returned to add these remarks.

HogRider: CNN just reported that four Republicans were badly burned when the cross they were trying to light exploded

HogRider: Watching Republicans protest is like watching Al Gore dance...

HogRider: It's not hard to become a Republican, providing you survive the lobotomy

HogRider: Vanax: The Republicans now claim that Janet Reno captured the cross and managed to lick it prior to its being delivered to the Lab, thereby effectively destroying the presidential DNA - However, now that the accusation has been made Republicans are convinced that no evidence will be necessary to support their believe. This is based on past success of course.

Vanax: Hog, can you please edit that for clarity because I am very certain that there is a kernel of understandability somewhere in there that needs clearification.

Hog Rider: Vanax: Clarity is in the eye of the befuddled - There was no clear kernel, I think it was a Klink

Vanax: Hog. Someone might have understood it but not I, not tonight, and perhaps never.

HogRider: Stephen King could not, in his worst nightmare, create the Republican Party......

HogRider: Vanax, Your request for me to explain something I said would require that I understand it, I never do, sorry. But, I'm perfectly willing to post other things I don't understand if that will help, this, being a perfect example.......

HogRider: I hope Bush has to give a 30 minute speech, and they only write 20 minutes for him - Then, the fun really begins.......... Duh-h-h-h...... “W” is for weasel!

HogRider: Bush has personality? Well, so does a head of lettuce, I guess......

HogRider: Boy, I just hate how partisan those rotten Republicans are......

Vanax: Hog, why do you hate Rep. partisanship?

HogRider: Vanax: Can’t answer that; It's one of the mysteries of the church......

HogRider: Vanax: Why is what? (I have the attention span of a gnat)

Vanax: Hog, do you ever submit your insights to people like Jay Leno and such.

Hog Rider: Vanax: Ha! They wish......

Vanax: Hog, well then Bush could use some help to make him look more compassionate and over-all softer.

HogRider: Vanax: If Bush wants to appear softer, my suggestion would be that he put on thirty pounds!

HogRider: Anyone that ever had a jack-in-the-box as a child, now knows where they've seen G.W. before.

HogRider: Basically, a Republican is a Nazi with his brains kicked out - Ooopppss, forgot, were supposed to tone down the rhetoric - Basically, a Republican is a Neo-Nazi with his brains kicked out

HogRider: If a Republican solved a problem, I'm betting the Rubik's Cube is busted!

Hog Rider: Vanax,I'll grant you (regarding the corrupt Flarida elections) that humans are human, if you'll grant me that machines are machines - Ever count your change from a candy machine? Why?

Hog Rider: Republicans couldn't mount a revolution, they're to cheap to kick in for guns

• I then left but Hog probably stayed to continue to make clever observations.
  
  Two days later, on Sun. Nov. 26, 2000, I posted the above chats in BigBob’s Philosophy chat room. Below are responses by those Philosophy chatters.

Dukeofwellington: Vanax, why the hell are you bringing this shit in here?

Dukeofwellington: Buncha losers

SaltCloud: Hipple, it is now.

Robjak: Hog....You are a disappointed liberal attempting to gain some kind of credibility in the face of a loss that by the further denial, by his socialist aspirant, media re-invented darling, Gore. Hog has saw fit to fill the room with his uninspiring post it notes attempting to dimminish republicans. Alas anyone with any kind of intellectual discernment would understand that Gore's decision to become a litigant rather than abide by the rule of law that is the framework of our great country, will by his own hand throw us into a constitutional crisis. Better wake up and smell the roses the Hogrider you beating a dead horse in an attempt to win a race that is over.

Dukeofwellington: Oh yes things have changed. the number of losers attending here has decreased greatly

SaltCloud: Hog has me absolutely befuddled!! *s*

– end 2000 –

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Doss Hornyness

Wednesday, 3-15-2006 (454 words)

http://www.sfwest.com/ Click on Boston Tea Party
Join us there for lively chat in real time 24/7 with Doss and other horny gourmonds pretending to be chatters.

Chatophiles:
Horndogs: Doss, Gemini
Sexually dessicated: Hepcat

Note: Doss’s chats are uniquely focused and precise. Here he virtually admits that life sexually stimulates him, describes that eating ordinary foods sexually arouse him, and suggests to another chatter what arousal foods to use. At the end, stupid sounding Rightwinger, Hepcat, breaks the spell.

- begin -
Doss: Gemini, but then, if you're like me, eating baloney also will make you horny. *S*

Doss: Gemini, I use lettuce now and then, but I'm partial to other forms of greens such as spinach, e.g. I've found, though, that if we can work the ''half a head of lettuce'' joke into meal time conversation, that increases the likelihood of dinner resulting in sex. I strongly suggest you try that.

Gemini: Doss, you should put some kind of warning on your recipes, maybe? ''Side effects include dry mouth, blurred vision, drowsiness, restlessness, insomnia, headache, and an unquenchable desire to have sex.''

Doss: Gemeni, Mrs foster claims that waking up in the morning makes me horny, so I'm not sure about the efficacy of my advice regarding the sexual benefits of adding certain foods to the diet. It might be safe to say that breathing is an aphrodisiac.

Doss: Gemini, if you don't want to get horny, do NOT use my recipes.

Hepcat: Doss, hey faggot breath... u still in here whinning?

Doss: Hepcat knows what ''faggot breath'' smells like?

Doss: If hepcat were closer, I'd have my niece kick his ass. *S*

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Dana 2 of 6

Wednesday, 3-9-2006 (1448 words)
http://www.sfwest.com/ Click Boston Tea Party chat room
Join us there for lively chat in real time with her and other chatters.

Chatteristici
The Saints: B, Dana, Rakitach, Rocksteady, Saintincognito, Sarvistree, Maggie, SaltCloud, Vanax, Kewp, Fenryr, Lurkin, Hornball, Njso,
The Devils: FP, Jajski, Lilly, Marta, Oarlic, Complete

Note: Dana leads a chat surrounding the banning of Vanax and violation of Gemini’s privacy. Dana’s style of chat is a breath of fresh air to the often limpid style practiced by too many at the Boston Tea Party chat room. Her breezy, aggressive approach elevates us all. A warrior with Amazonian forcefulness, she slays all Rightwingers with flair and bravado that shocks the meek and makes Rightwingers whine.

I am sure that her genes can be traced back in time to when her female warrior ancestors, the tall blonde Amazons, as recorded by Herodotus, the surprisingly reliable Greek historian -- and proven by Dr. Jean Davis Kimball, PhD -- overwhelmed her Greek captors, landed on the eastern shores of the Black Sea where they intermarried with Scythian men, members of an equally aggressive wandering tribe, to produce another aggressive tribe of nomads, the Sarmatians, who ranged from the current steppes of S. Russia in the west, to present day Western Magnolia in the east.

Her wide-ranging combat strategy is to use Rightwinger style of subversive chat against them in a deliciously patriotic way.

- Begin -
Marta: Rakitach, she doesn't chat from work

Maggie: Apparently someone posted Geminies contact information karen.

Saltcloud: Who?

Rocksteady: Kewp, Please ask Dana for me where her proof is. She must have me on iggy.

Dana: Kewp, From what i hear this isnt the first evil stunt that bitch
has pulled

Kewp: Dana, you are way WAY too kind to some.

Marta: the call has also been reported to the appropriate authorities who deal with this kind of personal invasion.

Rakitach: What does this mean? Give us details.

Dana: Marta how do you know that much about when a certain chatter
chats? Jesus h Christ.

Fp: Rakitach, we report that kind of stuff here. The call has also been reported to the appropriate authorities who deal with this kind of personal invasion.

Fenryr: Well, I have a sort of secondhand backdoor contact to reach Gemini...I guess I should see what all the bullshit is about...

Marta: Rakitach, Gemini is on the west coast, at least that's what I hear ...and I think I might have even heard it from her.

Kewp: Lilly, oh thats right, he did do something to Bunny too

Fp: Yes..she is on the west coast..

Dana: Fenryr, yeah you should, and tell Gemini ill miss her, i didnt see the part of her never coming back, Doss told me a few minutes ago.

Fenryr: That is, as long as it doesn't get ME accused of 'hacking' or 'Stalking'...*G*

Marta: Rakitach, I don't know, except what she said, her supervisors did reported the call I think as a form of stalking...I think that's what she said, you guys ask her.

Dana: See how marta rationalizes someone calling Gemini’s workplace?

Saltcloud: Yes... chatting in chat rooms in your own time is allowable..so what does it matter if someone posted Gemini's personal information and someone else (allegedly) contacted Gemini's employer..........embarrassing Gemini? that was the idea? Hurting her?

Kewp: Saltcloud: Gemini makes those that bad mouth her a joke though..her sense of humour is fab

Lurkin: How did someone get the info in the first place?

Marta: Rakitach, I don't know Lurkin

Kewp: Dana: rock wants to know where your proof is ..do you have him on iggy?

Dana: Saltcloud, getting her to leave the chatroom was the idea i think

Hornball: I have called a few chatters just to get an idea what their voices sound like. but i havent stalked. right

B: Yes....I scrolled back...this is horridly awful. Is Geminie ok?

Lurkin: Not that anyone wants to contact my employer LOL but so it doesn't happen to another person

Dana: Kewp, tell him patty is my proof, and Gemini. Thats all the proof i need.

Rocksteady: Dana, Patty is your proof? **lolololol** I thought so. Nuff said.

Fp: Rakitach, the call has also been reported to the appropriate authorities who deal with this kind of personal invasion.

Rakitach: FP, What does this mean? Give us details.

Fp: We report that kind of stuff here.

Rakitach: FP, since when were you “we?” And what ''stuff?''

Marta: Rakitach is that true faux, when did that happen? she was fine this morning.

Kewp: Gemini is in Cali? hell we are neighbours

Doss: Dana: They can't stand to hear the truth. They try to silence those who speak it.

Complete: so GEMINIINI is not going to come back? even if not from work.. she won’t post from home? sounds rather ludicrous to me.

Dana: Doss: proof positive, yep

Saltcloud: I'm not shocked that Dana would make this whole thing up. It's right up her Drama Queen alley.”

Saltcloud: Lilly. But Dana is not doing that, is she.....

Fp: No..this morning is when she may have been speaking to Mr N.. he was here all morning... I saw Gemini was upset last night about this or somehting similar... She isn't planning to return.

Dana: Saltcloud: nope im not, ill miss her, a lot

Kewp: How did someone get the info in the first place?

NJSO: Kewp, Who called Gemini's employer??? That's pretty pathetic.

NJSO: Kewp, that is what I would like to know.

Saltcloud: ''Lilly, I'm not shocked that Dana would make this whole thing up. It's right up her Drama Queen alley. ''

Marta: that's what she said this morning karen apparently somebody called her employer. ''

Fp: Rakitach: chatter always repot that stuff..and athorities are notified... you know that.

Dana: Kewp, Gemini posted a picture of herself on a tv show. From the url of the picture they were able to go to site and it had her name listed.

Sarvistree: Dana, Why is Gemini not coming back? What have I missed?

Dana: Njso: one of mustypees minions if not mustypee. Mustypee posted Gemini’s info on the main yesturday and afterwards they contacted Gemini’s employer (boss)

Kewp: Rock...Dana said Patty is her proof

Rakitach: Post the URL again...Every time I bookmark it, you CHANGE the damn thing! *l*

Fenryr: Ok, I just dropped an email which SHOULD get to Gemini in a day or two...

Dana: Sarvistree: shes not returning because

1. mustypee posted Gemini’s full name
2. after that, someone from this chat then called Gemini’s employer, which they were able to find out by doing a bit of research on the net after mustypee posted her full name

Kewp: Complete, poor Gemini gawd I hope whoever did this is real proud of themselves. fekkin RATFINK

Dana: Lurkin, no, im guessing when she was on fox news

Private message from Kewp to Rakitach
Rakitach: Don’t say who you are.shhhhhhhhhhhhhh do you want ppl to know its you?? sheesh

Dana: I dont have Rocksteady on ignore, i just ignore him naturally

Rocksteady: Complete: To tell you the truth, I don't blame her. There are too many whackjobs on the net. You never know what the next escalation could be.

Marta: Well this morning she was fine and she in the room...

Hornball: Fox news? holy christ did they put her on with friggin hannity?

Rakitach: Well, everyone knows that the poor Vanax was banned, all due to AwesomeGod's whining that he posted a gruesome but truthful pict of an anonymous dead Iraq who died in Bush's war. But then It's OK for AwesomeGod to lie about the war. He should be banned. That turd. I really want Vanax back. He added a lot of positive energy to the room, and he was also well-spoken, like was educated or something. I hope Vanax returns soon. *S*

Marta: What about fox news?

Dana: Marta, Gemini was upset, but of course she wasnt going to show you that

Ogarlic: Dana, that is very rotten badness, if true.

Fp: Rakitach, oh, poor vanax *s*

Rocksteady: Dana, Of course you do. Like when I start asking for things like proof.

Kewp: Dana, oh ok, so the information came from her picture

KEWP: Dana, did MISTYSEA actually post Gemini's real name somewhere??? it would seem that was the initial assault.

Fp: I miss the vanny (Vanax) dude..

Fp: Complete..Gemini said it's not misty.

Dana: Ogarlic, I’m heartbroken that Gemini won’t return, but then i think a lot of people are going to consider not returning as well

Ogarlic: Dana, yep i know. It’s a bit scary

B: Rakitach, Gemini is nice to everyone.

Fp: Rakitach, chatters always repot that stuff, and athorities are notified. You know that.

Rakitach: FP, which chatter and what stuff? Snitches and nazis?

Lurkin: If misty did that, i think she should be on “permaban.”

Dana: Complete: yes she posted it on the main here

Complete: Guess Gemini isnt a fighter.. if that happen to me, I would keep coming back to meet my attacker face to face..

Kewp: Me too, I would want ANSWERS!

Marta: Rakitach, you know you people making accusations should be more careful the buddha says the sould is a mirror of our own reflection.

Njso: Rakitach, just how did someone get Gemini's personal information in the first place????

Ogarlic: Dana Gemini was a good soul..she should find out who did it and sue them

Marta: Rakitach, what vanax is gone too?

Rakitach: Marta, yeah. Someone got Vanax banned. It was that Rightwinger, AwesomeGod, a real good Christian soldier.

Rocksteady: Rakitach, Actually, the precedent had already been set. Nino was banned for posting gory pics. Someone in here looked up the rule this morning and posted it.

Sarvistree: Fox news is to journalism as Professional wrestling is to athletics.

Lurkin: Njso, They got her private info. from a picture url she posted.

Dana: Kewp, they (despicable Rightwingers) posted pictures of her daughter

Njso: Gemini posted a picture that mustypee traced to a website,
and from there is where she got her name

Private message from Fp to Rakitach
Rakitach, I won't go into details. but the FBI has been notified for similar stuff..(in the recent past).

salt cloud: He did it to Pinko...and her employer is all the way in australia... ''

I have been threatened by a 'new' American : He said he would send an army guy pal who lives in my city of Hobart (hald a world away) around to my house in Hobart....to 'civilise me'....

Kewp: FP, yeah, ya gotta feel for Vanax. All he did is post a truthfully gruesome pict. *S*

Fp: Kewp, Vanax is always closer than we think *g*

Kewp: Rakitach: I WANT VANAX BACK TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Marta: You know you people making accusations should be more careful the buddha says the sould is a mirror of our own reflection

Awesomegod: I don't feel for Vanax at all. The fucker knew better.

Dana. Saltcloud, its scary the lengths to which people will go in a chatroom

Fp: Dana, Gemini chat transcripts can tell you who violated Gemini’s ersonal info and then she should sue them

Jajski: Rakitach ... Vanax baited people into banning him .... be honest at least.

Dana: Awesomegod: have you posted a fetus before? i think you did

Kewp: Saltcloud, for a chat though, to do what they did to Gemini or whomever else that is contacted in RL without permission IS SICK

Rocksteady: Complete: To each their own in dealing with such stuff. **shrug**

Marta: Rakitach, yeah it's quite unfortunate the liberal media can't get away with making up news anymore...

Marta: Rakitach, you mean a Christian got Vanax banned for telling the truth?

Rakitach: Marta, yeah, the Christian AwesomeGod got Vanax banned. What a petty and vindictive move.

Dana: Jajski, Vanax did not bait AwesomeGod; Vanax proved with that pic that republitards are hypocrits, they couldnt stand to see what their
policies have done to iraqi's.

Marta: Rakitach, that's true. I'm sorry I should allow the liberal media to be creative with the news.

Complete: bottom line.. .. if indeed an initial assault of posting ones real personal information, ie, real name , DID infact happen, I would assume the culprit that posted the information be the guilty party as well as the instigator in full measure of the entire situation. Stands to reason..... as well as logical.

Kewp: Dana, who posted pics of her daughter?

Dana: That is horrible....I like Gemini, she is a sweetheart. I wonder why someone would want to do that to her...

Marta, Rakitach, I don't know, except what she said, her supervisors did reported the call I think as a form of stalking...I think that's what she said, you guys ask her. ''

Saltcloud, Marta, that is encouraging.... good..

Rakitach: AwsomeGod...I dunno, Vanax was OK. So what that she allegedly violated some absolete rule. I think she added lots of good stuff to chat. Someone said that she never was nasty to anyone. You think that AwesomeGod was mad that Vanax did not call him names instead? S

Marta: RakitachI don't know what it means that is all Gemini said this morning, I imagine it means they traced or are
tracing it.

Dana: Complete: that is precisely why Gemini thinks mustypee is involved
and i agree. mustypee posted her name first then Gemini’s boss was
contacted, it wasnt a coincidence.

Sarvistree: Dana, sounds like the kind of thing Sonlitknight was doing a while back!

Saltcloud: Kewp, Gemini makes those that bad mouth her a joke though..her sense of humour is fab ''

Kewp: SaltCloud, She is so very, very different to many in here.... those who smirk and snigger and laugh at the tortures the detainees (no
charges laid). Those who are just like Bush and so, of course, applaud him.

Rakitach: Yeah Marta, the Christian AwesomeGod got Vanax banned. What a petty and vindictive move.

Marta: But Vanax knows the rules and he's a big boy. He makes his own decisions and he'll have to learn to own up to them.

RockSteady: You're kidding me what did they get banned for?

Dana: Saltcloud, Gemini is very progressive

Marta: Rakitach, I hope this place isn't going to turn into wbs where everybody gets banned for everything

Kewp: Marta, but Vanax asked and said he would take it down if it offended anyone, but awesome had to run to MrN and tattle *RME*

Dana: I wuv Vanax. *S* He was my first chat crush in here

B: Fp, When Gurjar was here earlier, he was talking to Mr.Nobody about the fact that Gemini told him that she got death threats from being on tv and advising Mr.Nobody that it should be posted that no one's privacy can be protected here. Now I know what all that meant. This is really bad.

Rakitach: Marta, you know, I thought this over, and speaking as a Republican because I am pro-gun, both Gemini and Vanax never offended me so I will miss them.

Rakitach: AwsomeGod...I dunno, Vanax was OK. She always treated me fine. So what that she allegedly violated some absolete rule. I think she added lots of good stuff to chat. Someone said that she never was nasty to anyone...

Fp: Dana: who posted pics of Gemini’s daughter?

Rakitach: I don't know what it means that is all Gemini said this morning, I imagine it means they traced or are tracing it

Rakitach: Yeah Marta, the Christian AwesomeGod got Vanax banned. What a petty and vindictive move.

Tut: Rakitach, Vanax knows the rules and he's a big boy. He makes his own decisions and he'll have to learn to own up
to them.

Dana: Complete, that is precisely why Gemini thinks mustypee is involved
and i agree. mustypee posted her name first then Gemini’s boss was
contacted, it wasnt a coincidence.

Sarvistree: Sounds like the kind of thing Sonlitknight was doing a while back!

Dana: Rocksteady, yes, and Vanax is really quite hot *S*

Dana: Saltcloud, Gemini is very progressive

Marta: Rakitach, Ihope this place isn't going to turn into wbs where everybody gets banned for everything.

Kewp: SaltCloud, Vanax asked and said he would take it down if it offended anyone, but awesome had to run to MrN and tattle *RME*

B: FP, when Gurjar was here earlier, he was talking to Mr.Nobody about the fact that Gemini told him that she got death threats from being on tv and advising Mr.Nobody that it should be posted that no one's privacy can be protected here. Now I know what all that meant. This is really bad.

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